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I'm really sorry to bring this topic back after 3 days of inactivity, but it caught my eye.

Anyway, i know people are going to despise my views here, but i honestly don't think child porn is wrong or right. To me, age is just a number. Child porn is just like gay porn, it's simply a fetish. So what if you look at a picture of a naked 14 year old girl? If you enjoy it, go for it.

The main thing i disagree with is older people using their influence on younger people simply for the sake of sexual interaction. However, if there is a true relationship between a minor and a much older person, i believe it's fine, even if it's kind of weird.

I guess i'm trying to say that man was not created civilized, we didn't know right from wrong because there wasn't anything right or wrong at the time. Man decides what is right or wrong, that's the way i see it.
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Bored, looking for something to write, so check the debate board..

Lets check out the law enforcement side of this topic. Back in the old days child molestation was considered a private family issue and the laws did not have any definition of child abuse, after all back then the used to have children working in factories remember?

Back in the old days pedos had to resort to smuggling magazines of kiddie porn from other countries to cultivate their fetish. Now days, anyone can become a pedo, just with a internet connection. This increases the population ratio of pedos in our community as far as I am concerned.

Sure there was youthful fooling around to experiment right? But an adult is intentionally exploiting a minor for their own sexual gratification. And it doesn't end there. Check the news, how many children that were abuse, later turn up dead? Everyday, thousands of young people and children are reported missing in the USA alone. How many of them were killed to hide a pedo's activity?

As a responsible society we need to protect our kids. Let them grow up and mature in every way, so they can protect themselves from abusive people. This is not one of those grey areas, you are either pro-child porn/abuse or you are against it. If you won't make a stand, then you are a part of the problem - doing nothing implies consent.

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ah sorry to bring this up again, but I just came to think of something.

If a 14 year old boy, downloads a picture of a naked 14 year old girl, and it gets detected. Would it be treated the same as if a grown man would download it?

I mean the girl is still being exploited even if it was a boy in her own age that downloaded the picture.

Or is it ok because they are the same age?


In my opinion it's ok if the person being "exploited" is ok with it. The person having the picture would have to be the same age though and has to fully understand what he/she is doing. As in a 5 year old can't do it in my opinion because the child would not understand it fully. This means that even if a 14 year old is ok with a 40 year old having a picture of him/her naked, doesn't mean it's really ok.


*phew* anyway please discuss this ^^
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hm...depends....let's say a 14 year old boy is chatting with a 14 year old girl and both send some sexy pics of themselves to one another: no problem imo.
but if a 14 year old boy is downloading pictures of a 14 year old girl that he found somewhere on a website it's illegal because the distribution of such images is against the law.
hm, now, when I follow my own argumentation, even the 1st scenario would be illegal then....but I think it could be labeled as "no victim = no crime".


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not all crimes have to have a victim :wink:

Speeding tickets, parking violations, building codes for how high your lawn grass can be, are all laws to maintain a certain level of 'proper behavior'. Certainly me getting a ticket for driving 10 mph over on the freeway was meant to enforce community standards.

The 14 yr old should be warned, discouraged, and then punished for certain laws , because society wants to shape the behavior of young adults. Skateboarding made illegal on city sidewalks, was really meant to teach minors respect for property. The 14yr should be discouraged from downloading porn anyways, let a lone trade pics online. Otherwise, in society's view, the 14yr old will grow to be a 25 yr old that still trades porn online. Maybe still interested in 14yr old girls.

Laws had to be put in place to protect one another, to provide rights to an injured party, and list strict guidelines for punishment so its fair. When parents fail to raise their kids to be respectful, honest, and careful, the laws will be there to educate them, or lock em up.

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right, but what I meant with "no victim = no crime" was only the 1st scenario where a 14 y/o boy and a girl of the same age share their own self-taken pics.... :wink: because for me this would be simply the modern way of discovering sexuality....when I was young (back in the 1920's :lol: ) it was about "doctor games" and I bet most of us did such stuff as a child too.

in every other case I agree with you, but if a 14 y/o boy downloads child porn it would be the best when his parents have an open talk with him first to make him understand why it's wrong instead of punish him....punishment only leads to defiance and can make things even worse.

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you have raised a good point, the internet chat room is a progress of technology, and 'playing doctor' has evolved to that technology.

Indeed trading online nude pics between young people could be the evolution of society.

Again, I see a case where our hardworking governments will fail to keep pace with society as it changes with new technology.

I don't know how it is on New york subways, buses, parks and other public places, but with mobile devices - online porn can be anywhere.

Do we want to sit next to a man thats viewing porn on a bus? Should that be illegal, or is that his right? What if the man intentionally has his monitor where others can view the porn?

Child porn used to be traded underground, or it required actual travel to countries that have lax enforcement. But due to the same progress of technology and society change, it may be more widespread as it is easier to get now.

Anyways.

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Yeah, if a 12 year old has a boyfriend/girlfriend and they both get themselves off on webcam to each other, it's technically illegal for both parties to watch. :?

In some countries 2 kids having sex is technically consentual simultaneous rape :lol:

It's current society and enabling technology that dictate the use of law, a pedophile would be jailed for years, but the worst that would happen to a kid is a slap on the wrist.

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I as a 12yr kid (mo2332's bro) does not enjoy looking at nude 12yr old girls with boobs the size of my small toe. I also think it is kinda fucked up to have sex at this age i mean kids the girls are prude and have been taught that kissing at 12 is wrong which i think is up sured. So all im saying is 12yrs or 13yrs having sex is unlikely unless threatened which is why i think cp is wrong because it is most definitely not what the kids want.

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