OWS and the future

[DNR]

I am not sure how a revolution works, it might be disorganized at first, maybe for a few years. We will continue protesting - announcing that we are unhappy with the current status. As far as how we get to a solution - I have no idea. At this time, we are just sounding an alarm.

Winter is bad around here, can't be outside for long. Tent city Detroit is shutdown. They have resorted to protesting at events and buildings.
Tent City will be back in the spring.

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[DNR]

I think you hit on it - States are more and more being pressured to follow federal laws, rather than state laws and the law of 'common wealth'.

perhaps that is the first step - to allow states to govern themselves with less federal middling.

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[computathug]

This topic is so huge it can run forever and ever. What can i say, i really feel like quitting some days, it gets disheartening. I really thought the Occupy movement could be switched round but it is proving to be harder than first thought. I have spent quite sometime at the #Occupy LSX event and was there from day one. It really looked like the people were coming together, it did look like we had a chance at really helping people. In someways it was a success and we still have a lot more to do.

Me and a few friends took this opportunity to speak to the police about the law and others about what they intended to achieve from the occupy movement. Now i will be one of the first to believe that 'Anonymous' were actually going to pull their fingers out of their asses and do something worth doing.

I started watching how the bots were posting news reports on twitter and facebook, i watched the video's they were posting on youtube and i started researching a lot more in to who are 'Anonymous' as anyone can be 'Anonymous' and i wasn't looking to find out who these people were as that requires time so just like anything else, if you want to know who is behind anything follow the money.

As for What is the plan keep well away from them too, Assange, want my verdict on him, he's a plant too. What information have they actually released ??? Yes a lot but nothing of substantial nature. A few racist cops, an old government server, do ya get my drift? I wanna see the stuff he doesn't print. I wonder how much he is worth through all this? How much damage has really been done with this info being released? In war there will always be casualties and you are talking about people that have no fear of wiping out millions of us in one fail swoop if they could get away with it....which in my view is what the elite's are planning to do in the not so far off future. It really all does fit together like a jigsaw. I am even having dreams about how it clicks neatly in place.

The illuminati want to create a new world order. One currency, no borders, a total police state. They want everyone's demands and yes all these demands will in time be met and along with it will come more and more rules and laws. Everything comes with a price tag.

Questions are being asked on all fronts and NOT being answered and if they are NOT being asked then they should be!! We are being told everyday by scientists, nutritionists, doctors about the dangers we are not only putting ourselves in but our children too. Its not just the banks but the fuel companies too, they have patents on inventions which would wipe out carbon footprints so why aren't they using them, because they are raping everything they can get out of you.

Our foods are being poisoned along with other drinks. The biggest of them all is Coca Cola,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

Aspartame has been the subject of several controversies, hoaxes[3] and health scares[47] since its initial approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 1974. Critics allege that conflicts of interest marred the FDA's approval of aspartame, question the quality of the initial research supporting its safety,[48][49][50] and postulate that numerous health risks may be associated with aspartame.

The validity of these claims has been examined and dismissed.[6][48][51] In 1987, the U.S. Government Accountability Office concluded the food additive approval process had been followed properly for aspartame.[48][52] Aspartame has been found to be safe for human consumption by more than ninety countries worldwide,[53][54] with FDA officials describing aspartame as "one of the most thoroughly tested and studied food additives the agency has ever approved" and its safety as "clear cut".[55] The weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a non-nutritive sweetener.[6]

http://aspartame.mercola.com/

According to researchers and physicians studying the adverse effects of aspartame, the following chronic illnesses can be triggered or worsened by ingesting of aspartame: Brain tumors, multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, chronic fatigue syndrome, parkinson's disease, alzheimer's, mental retardation, lymphoma, birth defects, fibromyalgia, and diabetes.

Aspartame is made up of three chemicals: aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol. The book "Prescription for Nutritional Healing," by James and Phyllis Balch, lists aspartame under the category of "chemical poison." As you shall see, that is exactly what it is.

Fluoride
http://www.fluoridealert.org/

Since October 2010, when citizens voted to halt fluoridation in Waterloo, Ontario another 29 communities have halted fluoridation. The total population that has been freed from forced fluoridation over the past year is approximately 2,571,500 people in the following communities:

Drones, RFID Chips, CCTV. We are all slaves. Why are there FEMA camps being built everywhere. Yes we have them here too!! The word Occupy itself, The word Operation, its all very regimental dont ya think. And i dont care what ya say there are people trying to pull the strings. Its the people who will get caught up in it i feel sorry for. I do sense there anger and can see why people do think they are fighting a good cause. This is where you also see the Anon groups disagreeing on targets.

Otpor is another group you should all read up on, very active in this movement too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otpor!

Principles of the movement

Otpor operated on the basis of three principles: unity, planning, and nonviolent discipline.[16]

It used the following ten strategies to achieve success:

Take an offensive approach
Understanding the concept "power in numbers" [17]
Developing a superior communication strategy[18]
Creating the perception of a successful movement[19]
Investing in the skills and knowledge of activists [20]
Cultivating external support [21]
Inducing security force defections [22]
Resisting oppression[23][24]
By means of decentralized leadership, education, using humor to maintain morale, and supporting members who had been arrested
Using elections to trigger change [25]
Enabling peaceful transition of power[26]

[edit] Tactics[27]
[edit] Protest and persuasion

Public theater and street acts to mock Milosevic
Extensive branding by hanging posters and stickers in widely trafficked areas
Rallies, marches, and demonstration
Electoral politics - campaigning & coalition-building
Concerts and cultural celebrations
Distribution of anti-Milosevic materials
Strategic use of internet, fax, and email to organize and distribute information and volunteers
Covert and public communication important community leaders to cultivate allies
Public statements, press releases, petitions, and speeches
Distribution of training manuals, frequent workshops for activists

[edit] Noncooperation

Boycotts and strikes by students, artists, actors, and business owners
General strikes
Defection of both security forces and members of the media
Organization that occurred outside the electoral system
Election monitors and well-organized election results reporting system

[edit] Nonviolent Intervention

Blockades of highways in order to debilitate the economy and show the regime the people's power
Occupation of key public buildings, occasional nonviolent invasions of said buildings
Bulldozers moving aside police barricades

This is about as good as it gets without me rewriting what they have.
http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=15125
What changes would i make, the first would that no company representative maybe a part of parliament and that the government should be there what we voted them in for....to look after our constitutional rights. All education would be free, electricity and gas would be free. Other ways of creating energy would be looked in to.

If ya ask me the whole fucking lot of it is a joke. The more i learn and discover the more i wish i had took the other pill and become a slave to society, doing the usual bullshit and not caring as long as i am happy with a nice big 4x4 and a nice big house watching reality TV.

JK

I hate the system too much for that. Just to clarify that i actually think the system works, its just corrupt to fuck.

I was also at this guys house a few weeks ago .... lets just say he is very heavily involved with the UN. I will keep his name from the boards for security reasons. One of his associated attended a freeman meeting in London that i helped organize and they were interested in how to turn instruments (liens) in to cash. While at his house he asked my opinion on the occupy movement and i told him my opinion that it was all set up from the top and that Anonymous was also funded the same way. You only need to look at the logo to see where it originates from! I then went on to explain to him that i had recently spoke at an event on my findings and that my interest in them lies within my interests. He proceeded to tell me he had an officer who was very high ranked and run the IT department for what ever section of some foreign country he belonged to, i cant remember which, of African origin i seem to think, who he had become engaged in a conversation about what his job exists of and of his orders. He had 300 men under him and was instructed to get them to work immediately on x amount of Child Porn websites up and online. They had no idea what they were building them for and they had no idea what they were to be used for. They just thought it was part of a future operation. I find it suspiciously convenient that out pops #OP Darknet. Another one that i find extremely fishy is #OP Cartel. Here is a decent article on similar to my thoughts.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread771067/pg1
Like i said, i can go on all night. Il wait to see what anyone else says before i rant some more.

And anyone who is going to the events, please learn the law, i dont mean listen to a legal team either, they are also out to discredit anyone who doesn't fit into their regime, i know, believe me. One of my friends is the talk of the place at the mo with people trying to discredit him as the joker. The joke is on them people, they have given us our stage to educate people on what is really happening. We dont need to have all the rules and regulations. Natural Law is how we should all be living.

As long as you cause no loss, harm or injury to any 3rd party we should be free to come and go.

Peace Love and Light to you all

[DNR]

Change is coming..

DNR

[computathug]

Change is coming, i have been saying for a while now a revolution is starting all over the world and i do think this is only the start of the hacktivism.Its going to be a brutal battle, hackers are the new undercover agents, its less dangerous than them being in the field. Although this change is being influenced this is also our time to stand up and speak out for what we believe in. I applaud anyone who is going out doing there bit, i applaud anyone who is awake to the situation ahead facing not only us but other generations from the future. We may not live long enough to see the immediate change but we can try and leave the world a better place than it was when we arrived.

I dont want to see a Revolution i want to see Evolution. In a Revolution lives will be lost and it will be a bloody battle, if we can learn from the past we can now move forward from Revolution and have R-Evolution (our -evolution). This is just the beginning, this is why we mustn't hate the law enforcement or the army, in most cases these people are programmed to follow orders. They are kept away from main stream life for long legths of time and the papers and other forms of propaganda are used to keep not only them but civilians too from knowing the hidden agenda's of the corporate world....Total Domination! Its not far off guys to tell you the truth and to say the least, I don't like one bit!!!

[DNR]

well - I believe that severals things will happen -

either a LEO at a protest will overstep his authority and shoot or beat someone, and that will cause the movement to change from non-violence to violence.

Or people will be tired of being ignored, and take it to the next level - a riot.

a fringe element will spark a mass arrest or mob riot.

We are missing the administrative elements to the protest - to start dialog with politicians to make change.

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[computathug]

This is exactly what they are looking for DNR, trouble!!!

This is why i feel it has been important for me to be there in London for sometime. It is like trying to flog a dead horse as we call it. I find it all quite amusing how a protest which is mainly against the banks are still being controlled by the banks.

Which ever way i thought this protest may be able to be kept at a sensible and peaceful levels but i dont see it going any other way except for violently which as you also know is going to be just the start once Martial Law is implemented. Its going to be a strange 2012 thats for sure.

Keep up the good work!!