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What are your views on the world?

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Well i think it is safe to say that there is a collection of unusual characters here on sucko, curious as to how you view the world, your personal view on the world etc.

For me, my favorite shape is the triangle. No matter what direction or angle you put it, you will always have one point at the top, and two other points subordinate to it, and yet, all three lines feed into one another.

For me the triangle is love=obedience=authority.

Those are the three "virtues" as I call it that motivate my life.

When I was younger, I ran around my garden and in my street filled with masculine role models such as Dick Tracey, Richard Conte, and Elliot Ness. I always wanted to be gangster, Roman legionnaire, FBI agent, priest....so many organisations where power and authority was earned and maintained through a blessed fraternity of men, working together.

A couple of words that sum up my mentality are "feudalism" and "vassalage" and this quote always stuck with me:

"I shall be to my lord and master, be true and faithful, to love all that he loves, and shun all that he shuns."

Feudalism and vassalage whilst keeping with the notion of fraternity, both recognize that in the world people are not equal. My genuine view is that of a pyramid, where the man at the top rules and imposes his will, and that his vassals, his loyal subjects, swear blind fealty to that will. Samurai where especially fond of this.

I would also admit that I am a Fascist. before there is a collective gasp and horror at that dirty word, yes, Hitler and Mussolini were Fascists. But Fascism itself is a system of government founded and exercised during the rule of the Roman Empire, and advocates as ever, the few leading the many.

I believe in power, authority and respect. I believe that yes, there are people who are better in the world, and those who are less so. But for the vassals, the superior owes them a duty. By virtue of the superior being stronger in whatever manner he is, he then owes a duty to protect and keep safe the vassal.

for those who sneer and mock those weaker and less forunate than themselves, I have no time for. They are imo in breach of their natural contract, to love and protect their subjects, and nothing more than a beastly coward. I have no time for such men of clay.

It is odd, but I have a dear friend on this site. He is odd, and eccentric, but charmingly so. He is innocent, and views the world with a child-like perspective that in an age and forum of cynicism, and intrigue is rather refreshing. To him, I am Swan:his friend. I only hope that one day he realizes his own potential, to reject the loathsome words that people put his way.

In fact, this member has drawn more out of me, taught me more about myself as a person and generally enriched me as a person, that i honestly dont know how to thank him. At times, I have to really wonder as to who is the master of the relationship, this member seems to know the recesses of my mind far far better than I even know myself.

Good on you son! You are my right hand man indeed.

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So what about you guys? Whats your philosophy?

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Post by ayu »

wow man, great read =) really good written.

Well, i don't have much to say, since i just came home from work my mind is more or less empty ^^


Anyway, a very important thing in my life, is not specifically respect, but a kind of respect for ownership. For example. One of the worse things i can think of, is a thief. Just a stupid little thief, taking stuff that others may have worked a long time to achieve. For me, these people are worth less then dirt and should be exposed of. Bullet in the head imo.

I am also a big fan of power, because i feel that i can be a good leader of the world ^^ so i often dream about controlling earth as i wish, since i believe that i wouldn't misuse the power that has been given to me.

A large part of my life, has been idiots. I mean that i have been surrounded by complete morons A LOT in my life. And these people just as the non respectful ones, are a waste of space. Bullet in the head there as well.


So, if we all saw the world through my eyes, and had a little more balls then i do. Then i would guess that about 70% of the world would go.....that's a lot of bullets.
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Well, now you are dabbling in philosophical views, which can always get messy. However, what you view is a form of the tripartite soul - which as described by Plato, represents the appetite/spirit/reason, and then based on these three parts of he soul, is how you represent your self in state. Thus, if one has a strong appetite for power, he will represent himself as an authority figure - if he has flawed reason, and a broken spirit, thus he will not lead so well.

He believed that only through reason, and philosophical debate that a state can be ruled with absolute success, thus one can derive, or make interpretations as to a form of democracy. He was around during the Athenian rule and, of which, was ruled by few and this influenced his opinions greatly (as one can only judge what he sees). He states that the state will evolve from an aristocracy, to oglichary(sp?) to a democracy and finally to a tyranny. I would like to draw a parallelism to what is occurring to the United States right now....tbc

Anyway, I enjoy talking about philosophy - perhaps I will continue later on this debate, but right now I have errands to run which I am late for. FYI, I am a big fan of the Socratic method, and platonic view of things. ;)

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{Well i think it is safe to say that there is a collection of unusual characters here on sucko, curious as to how you view the world, your personal view on the world etc. }

character Hmmm no, touched, nuts, and I bite but anyway I have stated my views in a feiw other posts and I think they may have evan come out or across wrong I was raised Military and believe military truth honer and respect and most of all you never ever leav your brothers or sisters in distress or falling You go we go!!!!! the blue line

It is a code a conduct that is not carried out anymore in this sick twisted world with adults or children look at the millions of neglected elderly people 60 and on up who should not be driveing and other crap but because no one cares for or about them they still do stuff way to long or are abused in nursing homes!!! look at the 14 and younger kids haveing kids just well excuse my rudeness but spreading it all over the place no respect no concern and most all young women dress like street walkers I see them and think they are hookers with there tities all up and crap what happened to being taught to respect yourself and care enough not to taunt and all that then they wonder why the attacks are so high with there crap hanging out the US is just going in the toilet as far as ethics and morals men think nothing of porn on there screens and affairs hell marriges are A joke in the US most dont evan make it a couple of months I was taught and firmly beleve one person and marrige is for life till death
and be involved with the kids stop just poping them out for goverment money then ignoreing and abuseing them or just throw em in front of tv 24 7 no wonder its mostly kids commiting crime now days nothing like when I grew up my parents both talked both agreed on punishment etc I got slaped If I called my mom a bitch hell I tried to stand up to my dad at 18 or so and told him he was to old to do anything anymore, nextthing I knew I was across the room sore jaw with him standing on my balls asking what the hell did I just say to him I said nothing SIR he said better keep it that way while under his roof!!!! and soo much more you could fill 30 or more pages about goverment life etc nowdays its just sick and shitty
the way people have become but you have to try and see some good somewhere some how but dam its hard everywhere you go you see some sort of bullcrap and sighns of the trash kids wild and screaming in stores and resteraunts some hoochie whos falling out and nastie and thinks shes all that etc its like dam people get out of my face Im trying to have a good day or the uneducaded street thug who cant evan pronounce english properly anyway whatever I know this will piss some one off so sorry whatever by and yes my grammer and spelling sucks get over it or dont read it!!!!

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Oppconsulting wrote:{Well i think it is safe to say that there is a collection of unusual characters here on sucko, curious as to how you view the world, your personal view on the world etc. }

character Hmmm no, touched, nuts, and I bite but anyway I have stated my views in a feiw other posts and I think they may have evan come out or across wrong I was raised Military and believe military truth honer and ....
Believe it or not, I agree with you - and as far as your spelling and grammar is concerned, I don't think it's your fault at all. The United States has a huge problem with their failing Education system, most notable within California. I think it's due in fact to teachers not caring anymore. Believe it or not (probably more so, than not), I used to have horrible grammar up until grade 12 when I had a teacher who cared. She would not let me do anything at school until I learned proper grammar - I played varsity hockey, baseball and rugby and she threatened to have my cut from the teams until I tried harder. It is because of her, that today, I am where I am. For that, I thank her - why? Not because she was a bitch, which I thought at the time but because, she cared. Last year I even seen her at the mall, went up to her and thanked her. Hopefully, that made her day.

Anyway, I can totally see where you are coming from with your view of the world. Even todays kids, in comparison with my generation (I am only 20 - soon 21) there is a HUGE difference in not only maturity but morals and rational. The world is really becoming degenerate and the worst part is, my part of the World is not even bad to some other places, in comparison.

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thanks E and its not my education I have health issues and learning disabilities that I never did well in that area of school but anyway, yes it degenerate and lack of morals just not taught anymore the right and wrong hell these thugs with guns are funny holding it all sideways and off and crap go ahead moron shoot your going to hit yourself in the head more than the chance of hitting me, I mean the leval Of ignorance rises by the minite it seems just like the dam birth rate seems to rise that fast here!!!! Stop the insainity people

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I agree with big-e on this one swanny, ya started something here. I was writing a reply to this post and i have just stopped. My views go back and have changed so much as i am reasoning why i realize i have wrote almost 2 pages on my points and views and why and what affected my views and have only reached 13 years old and it is beginning to be another life story. In fact i even realized a few things about myself that i did not know already. Thought i was back under the shrink XD. I have always said one day i will write a book but at the moment it would be too incriminating :P, and believe me i have some cracking stories to tell.
So i will get to some short points

1. Dont take no shit
2. The only person who i don't mind raising their voice to me is my boss. If you don't pay my wages then don't raise your voice to me. Speak civil to me and i will be civil back.
3. The world is a rat race. Slow down and enjoy it. Take time out. We only live once. The older you get the less energetic things there are to enjoy.
4. Dont be a nine to fiver as i call them. I don't like routines for too long. Change it. Variety is the spice of life. Too many people get up, have breakfast, work, eat and sleep for 50 years of there life before they retire. Get out enjoy it, or do as we all like doing, learn something, we like computers but so many people have a gaming console and a tv and thats there life.
5. Be the best you can at whatever you attempt. If it's not for you try something else.
6. My missus says i live 24 hr party life style. I say yeah baby lol
7. Always treat people as you would like them to treat you. Respect is earned not just given.
8. FCUK the system and all that are in it. The governments, power mongers are the criminals. Pedophiles, sex cases a lot are from so called high places and most have something to hide. If you have money and power you can pay for anything you want in this world. Have you ever wondered how many accidents were not really accidents.

hm, il add more later

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There is a lot of uncertainty in the world and I could go on and talk about what is wrong with this world and what
we should do to make it better but that is not what the question is. The question is, "what I believe it?" I am \
going to try and describe that as accruatelly as possible and before I beginn I would like to say that I base
my believes or at least try on some unviersal truths. So I do not look at this world and base my believes on what I see.

1. I believe in escapism. I feel that there is nothing wrong with getting high here and there and I do not want to talk about drugs here. Let's for a moment ignore that I used the word, "high" and imagain that I said, "drunk." YOu have to take some times time for your self and just forget about every thing that goes on in life and in the world. For me some times a good show is enough for me to escape this reality. I really enjoyed those shows like Rossane, Prince of BellAir,...Some times I just drifted off for up to 45 minutes and just forgot about ever thing. It is too bad they do not make shows like that any more.


2. I believe in maintaing a distance to every thing. I believe that you need to have a bit of distance to every thing that goes on in this world. That is one of my universal truths because I would believe in that no matter what time period I lived. Even if I was born 2000 years ago or if I lived in the year 4500. For instance I would never want to be the face behind some organization or even of a group of people. I would never want a front row sit in any kind of a situation. Because the minute some thing goes wrong you are going to have the front row sit of that problem and the next. I rather just watch the show and leave when ever I want to. In short I do not like to have to many strings attached to me what ever the situaation may be.

3. I believe in survival. One needs to do in life what ever it takes to survive. I believe that some times you need to lie to bring out the trught and steal to get what is rightfull yours. This is a really bad world and it has always been and it always is going to be. So we could talk about this being one of those universtall trught that would not change in no matter what time period I lived in. Because in life you can not let people play and some times you need to show people that if they want to mess with you there is going to be trouble. That is what I believe in above all else because if you do not put up a fight when you are called upon than you are not worth to be appreciated by any one.

4. I believe in life. I believe that you should live and let others live. I do not believe that one should inflict pain on some just because that person is different from you whether that be in his sexual orientaion, dress, color,...Taking out your anger on some goth, gay, jew,...is wrong. We need to appreciate people for what they are and only than the world can become a better place but first we need to start with our selves.
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The only person I agreed with was c-thug, my man;

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1. Dont take no shit
2. The only person who i don't mind raising their voice to me is my boss. If you don't pay my wages then don't raise your voice to me. Speak civil to me and i will be civil back.
3. The world is a rat race. Slow down and enjoy it. Take time out. We only live once. The older you get the less energetic things there are to enjoy.
4. Dont be a nine to fiver as i call them. I don't like routines for too long. Change it. Variety is the spice of life. Too many people get up, have breakfast, work, eat and sleep for 50 years of there life before they retire. Get out enjoy it, or do as we all like doing, learn something, we like computers but so many people have a gaming console and a tv and thats there life.
5. Be the best you can at whatever you attempt. If it's not for you try something else.
6. My missus says i live 24 hr party life style. I say yeah baby lol
7. Always treat people as you would like them to treat you. Respect is earned not just given.
8. FCUK the system and all that are in it. The governments, power mongers are the criminals.
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Many truths are in his words. Be the best, enjoy life, party 24/7, and respect. Oh yea, and question authority.

You want power? Its fleeting, I guarantee someone will want your position, power is corruption. He who has the gold makes the rules, and he is the motherfucker that gets robbed.

Escapism and distance will only have you sitting on the sidelines. Those that do nothing are just as guilty as the perpetrators. The real test of a man is not how many times he gets hit, but how many times he stood up.

You can appreciate life, but there are people that want you to die. Some people believe that they should live and you should perish. If you want peace, you must prepare for war.

Some talk of obedience. Love is being under the power of someone else, so thats a mistake. I know Samurai, seven years of solid training by a three time all japan national champion. Its path is devotion, a study in a discipline to be the best. Hacking is such a path, neophytes.

Your outlook on life is variable, you'll hate the world one day, the next you'll want to invite 50 stray cats into your house for dinner.

It is not about being in authority, or about questioning authority,
It is about exploiting authority. Cheat authority.

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I only have one and that is, L.L.H. :
Live Life Happy :lol:

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my phylosofy is simple :).

For one to live another life must end :).
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Open Letter to Lyecdevf

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Hey man, you wandering digital nomad

You talked about several different things, but it all meant one thing;
Live and let live.
Oh yea, escapism. Isolation.

I tried all that, and it just lead to paranoid moments, sitting in cold sweat, holding a firearm on the door. Just one more hit.

This is not a dis, but a 'knowing glance, a blink of the eye, the smirk.'
Those that are real, have been there, and nothing more needs to be said.

Neophytes? It all begins with a click of the mouse, or the flick of a Bic.

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Re: Open Letter to Lyecdevf

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DNR wrote: Neophytes? It all begins with a click of the mouse, or the flick of a Bic.
wow, should be printed on t-shirts....I really like that one.. 8O

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