graphics problem?

Post by **alien100** » 29 Jun 2007, 17:29

my new laptop wont run games they freeze and become slow!!
here are the specs

amd turtion x2 dual core cpu
ati radeon 1150 express 256mb ddr2 graphics card
2gb ddr2 ram
120gb hard drive

i have the latest catalyst drivers, the machine runs fast
i dunno what it is
i even tried running the games at the lowest settings!!

Post by **bad_brain** » 30 Jun 2007, 04:03

the graphics card is the bottleneck....you will not be able to play newer games with it (some maybe on the lowest quality settings if you're lucky).
and the 256mb is just shared memory which makes the card even slower...

rambo · Post by **rambo** » 30 Jun 2007, 05:09

TroubleShooting -

#1 - Do you have any processes running?
#2 - Could've you accidentaly opened a clone of the game?
#3 - Any malicious virus / worms - That could be slowing down your cpu?
#4 - Any junk on your harddrive ?..
#5 - What video card do you have (if any)?
#6 - Are all cpu fans running smoothly?
#7 - A clean pc is a happy pc!
#8 - What OS are you running?

All i can think of for now.

Aslong as you have a Video Card it should be good..

I'll look into it further if you like

There seems to be no problem with your hardware thats for sure..

Post by **alien100** » 30 Jun 2007, 05:25

bad_brain wrote:the graphics card is the bottleneck....you will not be able to play newer games with it (some maybe on the lowest quality settings if you're lucky).
and the 256mb is just shared memory which makes the card even slower...

i have an option of changing the frame buffer heres an image

btw i am running windows xp professonal sp2

Post by **bad_brain** » 30 Jun 2007, 06:04

increasing the frame buffer size will NOT increase the performance...the only option you have would be overclocking, but I highly recommend not to do it on a notebook because the the increase of the temperature might even damage it.

hm, what games are you talking about btw? older games should run well, but you really can't expect newer FPS to run smoothly for example...

Post by **ayu** » 30 Jun 2007, 06:08

bad_brain wrote:increasing the frame buffer size will NOT increase the performance...the only option you have would be overclocking, but I highly recommend not to do it on a notebook because the the increase of the temperature might even damage it.

hm, what games are you talking about btw? older games should run well, but you really can't expect newer FPS to run smoothly for example...

Alien told me before that the games "frooze" while in game, i sugested that the fans werent working correctly. Because as far as i know the games never "freeze" just like that if the GFX card isn't compatible or good enough, the game laggs or doesn't even start or has any other Graphics issue like black screen and such.

Post by **alien100** » 30 Jun 2007, 06:11

for example counter stricke thats old and barelly works
and command & conquer 3 runs smoothly on medium setting and thats a 2007 game

someone was telling me something about graphics acceleration ?

Post by **bad_brain** » 30 Jun 2007, 06:27

- rightclick the Windows desktop and choose Properties from the popup menu
- click the Settings tab and then click Advanced
- in the next dialog box, click the Troubleshoot tab

and there you can set the hardware acceleration.

but well, maybe it's really a problem with the fan, to check for temperature problems try Motherboard Monitor, you find it in the downloads...

Post by **alien100** » 30 Jun 2007, 06:57

wtf??

mo2332 · Post by **mo2332** » 30 Jun 2007, 09:02

well theres ur problem ur fans suck ur comp going to go booom

lol

Post by **alien100** » 30 Jun 2007, 09:20

mo2332 wrote:well theres ur problem ur fans suck ur comp going to go booom lol

damn, boy ur hilarious

Post by **bad_brain** » 30 Jun 2007, 13:10

don't panic, most likely just a problem with recognizing the sensors (maybe there aren't even any).
hmm...best run a benchmark like PCMark, if the system also freezes the I really might be a hardware problem and you should return the notebook and get a new one. you could also re-install XP and see if that fixes the problem, but I'm not sure if this might affect the warranty...if in doubt better return the notebook.

here's the link to PC Mark:
http://www.futuremark.com/download/pcmark05/

check your PM for some additional details...

Post by **alien100** » 30 Jun 2007, 15:53

here are the results

and this too

and here is some images i took from c&c 3 at different quality levels and how the game runs

low (runs fast)

medium (runs slow)

ultra high (barely runs)

Post by **bad_brain** » 01 Jul 2007, 03:38

well, if the benchmarks ran without freezing the system it's the g-card and it's very limited performance......like I said at the beginning: there's nothing you can do about it....

notebooks are simply not gaming machines....if you want a notebook for gaming you have to spend a lot of money, and because of the immense power usage of high-end g-cards such notebooks are not really mobile because the batteries are empty within a short time.
I have a ATI x1600pro card which is lower middle class (but still 3 classes better than your notebook one), and even with that card I couldn't play C&C with high quality settings I guess...

Post by **alien100** » 01 Jul 2007, 03:45

bad_brain wrote:well, if the benchmarks ran without freezing the system it's the g-card and it's very limited performance......like I said at the beginning: there's nothing you can do about it....
notebooks are simply not gaming machines....if you want a notebook for gaming you have to spend a lot of money, and because of the immense power usage of high-end g-cards such notebooks are not really mobile because the batteries are empty within a short time.
I have a ATI x1600pro card which is lower middle class (but still 3 classes better than your notebook one), and even with that card I couldn't play C&C with high quality settings I guess...

thanks for the help everyone

I ran the game on a diffrent coputer with the sane specs and turns out the same the gfx sucks lol