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windows network problem(need help)

Posted: 21 May 2006, 05:50
by blastoderm
helo im having a problem trying to access in our network. im using windows xp SP1 and using a router. withing the network i can ping other computer on the network i can see other computer on the network but the problem is that i cannot use the file and printer sharing on the network because when i try to access other computer... it says that access denied because i do not have any admin settings though i am logged in as an administrator.. and we had tried to reformat all of the computer and not even one can access other computer within our network. so can you please help me with these...

Posted: 21 May 2006, 06:40
by FrankB
Okay, if a PING gives results, that's ok, TCP/IP is sane.
Since you typed that "you can see the other computer", does that mean that if you type :
"\\MACHINENAME" , you get a window open with that yellow connected folder icon with the name of the remote computer or not ?

(By MACHINENAME i am not explicit, it could be whatever you pet-named your machine, Socrates, Chewbacka, Computer1, .. but the PATH is : like for a drive "C:\,","D:\","E:\",.. except that "\\MACHINENAME looks up for a distant machine/drive/device and opens a dialogue with it. Their are other methods do access machines but that requires DNS and DNS requires another posting here).

If yes, then i think you forget one essential thing : you may have forgotten to enable or even install "File and Printer sharing" in the configuration panel somewhere. Do that on both computers!

After that is done or checked, you have to enable a root folder to be shared, otherwise you are doing all the work for nothing :
right click on "My Docyments" check the "Share this folder" option and then type this in the address bar :
"\\MACHINENAME\My Documents\path\to\sub_folder\file" and see if you can get something from that other machine.

If no, you might have forgotten something by installing the router, check and read the manual of your router and drivers twice and come back to suck-o saying "YAY! It's alive!" :-)

Note : check also on both computers if you have DHCP-service and something like Windows Name Service toggled on "enabled" (WINS), otherwise you might work in th dark for a long time :
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodte ... s2000.mspx
(though guys wrote that thing)
Another thing to check is both the computer's environment/settings/advancd : check the "This computer is part of a Network" on on and give your computers a name and a cute environment name or leave the default "WORKGROUP" and eventually ad a dns suffix for later.

Posted: 21 May 2006, 07:02
by blastoderm
ok sir.. i'll better try that because altough the TCP/IP component is already intalled and i tried to reinstall it. and my computers on the network can connect to the internet with no problem. but anyway ill just try your suggestion.

Re: windows network problem(need help)

Posted: 21 May 2006, 08:49
by LaBlueGirl
Just because you are on a network does not mean you have file-sharing capabilities.

You have to tell Windows you want each comp on the network to be able to "share" everything, otherwise you are just sharing your connection.

Go through the network setup again, find the option and click the bad boy.

Posted: 22 May 2006, 06:09
by blastoderm
i tried all the steps but still it won't let me access other computers on the network. i also tried the troubleshooting steps on microsoft site but still it won't work. because when i try to use the command net view on the command prompt it prompts me to a sytem error 5 which describes still access denied. but anyway i thanks you for your help sir. if you have still any suggestions just post it and i'll be happy to try it. thanks :D

NT/XP command lines

Posted: 22 May 2006, 08:35
by DNR
An A-Z Index of the Windows NT/XP command lines

ADDUSERS Add or list users to/from a CSV file
ARP Address Resolution Protocol
ASSOC Change file extension associations
ASSOCIAT One step file association
AT Schedule a command to run at a later time
ATTRIB Change file attributes

BROWSTAT Get domain, browser and PDC info

CACLS Change file permissions
CALL Call one batch program from another
CD Change Directory - move to a specific Folder
CHANGE Change Terminal Server Session properties
CHKDSK Check Disk - check and repair disk problems
CHKNTFS Check the NTFS file system
CHOICE Accept keyboard input to a batch file
CIPHER Encrypt or Decrypt files/folders
CleanMgr Automated cleanup of Temp files, recycle bin
CLEARMEM Clear memory leaks
CLIP Copy STDIN to the Windows clipboard.
CLS Clear the screen
CLUSTER Windows Clustering
CMD Start a new CMD shell
COLOR Change colours of the CMD window
COMP Compare the contents of two files or sets of files
COMPACT Compress files or folders on an NTFS partition
COMPRESS Compress individual files on an NTFS partition
CON2PRT Connect or disconnect a Printer
CONVERT Convert a FAT drive to NTFS.
COPY Copy one or more files to another location
CSVDE Import or Export Active Directory data

DATE Display or set the date
Dcomcnfg DCOM Configuration Utility
DEFRAG Defragment hard drive
DEL Delete one or more files
DELPROF Delete NT user profiles
DELTREE Delete a folder and all subfolders
DevCon Device Manager Command Line Utility
DIR Display a list of files and folders
DIRUSE Display disk usage
DISKCOMP Compare the contents of two floppy disks
DISKCOPY Copy the contents of one floppy disk to another
DNSSTAT DNS Statistics
DOSKEY Edit command line, recall commands, and create macros
DSADD Add user (computer, group..) to active directoryDSQUERY List items in active directory
DSMOD Modify user (computer, group..) in active directory

ECHO Display message on screen
ENDLOCAL End localisation of environment changes in a batch file
ERASE Delete one or more files
EXIT Quit the CMD shell
EXPAND Uncompress files
EXTRACT Uncompress CAB files

FC Compare two files
FDISK Disk Format and partition
FIND Search for a text string in a file
FINDSTR Search for strings in files
FOR Conditionally perform a command several times
FORFILES Batch process multiple files
FORMAT Format a disk
FREEDISK Check free disk space (in bytes)
FSUTIL File and Volume utilities
FTP File Transfer Protocol
FTYPE Display or modify file types used in file extension associations

GLOBAL Display membership of global groups
GOTO Direct a batch program to jump to a labelled line

HELP Online Help
HFNETCHK Network Security Hotfix Checker

IF Conditionally perform a command
IFMEMBER Is the current user in an NT Workgroup
IPCONFIG Configure IP

KILL Remove a program from memory

LABEL Edit a disk label
LOCAL Display membership of local groups
LOGEVENT Write text to the NT event viewer.
LOGOFF Log a user off
LOGTIME Log the date and time in a file

MAPISEND Send email from the command line
MEM Display memory usage
MD Create new folders
MODE Configure a system device
MORE Display output, one screen at a time
MOUNTVOL Manage a volume mount point
MOVE Move files from one folder to another
MOVEUSER Move a user from one domain to another
MSG Send a message
MSIEXEC Microsoft Windows Installer
MSINFO Windows NT diagnostics
MSTSC Terminal Server Connection (Remote Desktop Protocol)
MUNGE Find and Replace text within file(s)
MV Copy in-use files

NET Manage network resources
NETDOM Domain Manager
NETSH Configure network protocols
NETSVC Command-line Service Controller
NBTSTAT Display networking statistics (NetBIOS over TCP/IP)
NETSTAT Display networking statistics (TCP/IP)
NOW Display the current Date and Time
NSLOOKUP Name server lookup
NTBACKUP Backup folders to tape
NTRIGHTS Edit user account rights

PATH Display or set a search path for executable files
PATHPING Trace route plus network latency and packet loss
PAUSE Suspend processing of a batch file and display a message
PERMS Show permissions for a user
PERFMON Performance Monitor
PING Test a network connection
POPD Restore the previous value of the current directory saved by PUSHD
PORTQRY Display the status of ports and services
PRINT Print a text file
PRNCNFG Display, configure or rename a printer
PRNMNGR Add, delete, list printers set the default printer
PROMPT Change the command prompt
PUSHD Save and then change the current directory

QGREP Search file(s) for lines that match a given pattern.

RASDIAL Manage RAS connections
RASPHONE Manage RAS connections
RECOVER Recover a damaged file from a defective disk.
REG Read, Set or Delete registry keys and values
REGEDIT Import or export registry settings
REGSVR32 Register or unregister a DLL
REGINI Change Registry Permissions
REM Record comments (remarks) in a batch file
REN Rename a file or files.
REPLACE Replace or update one file with another
RD Delete folder(s)
RDISK Create a Recovery Disk
RMTSHARE Share a folder or a printer
ROBOCOPY Robust File and Folder Copy
ROUTE Manipulate network routing tables
RUNAS Execute a program under a different user account
RUNDLL32 Run a DLL command (add/remove print connections)

SC Service Control
SCHTASKS Create or Edit Scheduled Tasks
SCLIST Display NT Services
ScriptIt Control GUI applications
SET Display, set, or remove environment variables
SETLOCAL Begin localisation of environment changes in a batch file
SETX Set environment variables permanently
SHARE List or edit a file share or print share
SHIFT Shift the position of replaceable parameters in a batch file
SHORTCUT Create a windows shortcut (.LNK file)
SHOWGRPS List the NT Workgroups a user has joined
SHOWMBRS List the Users who are members of a Workgroup
SHUTDOWN Shutdown the computer
SLEEP Wait for x seconds
SOON Schedule a command to run in the near future
SORT Sort input
START Start a separate window to run a specified program or command
SU Switch User
SUBINACL Edit file and folder Permissions, Ownership and Domain
SUBST Associate a path with a drive letter

TASKLIST List running applications and services
TIME Display or set the system time
TIMEOUT Delay processing of a batch file
TITLE Set the window title for a CMD.EXE session
TOUCH Change file timestamps
TRACERT Trace route to a remote host
TREE Graphical display of folder structure
TYPE Display the contents of a text file

USRSTAT List domain usernames and last login

VER Display version information
VERIFY Verify that files have been saved
VOL Display a disk label

WHERE Locate and display files in a directory tree
WHOAMI Output the current UserName and domain
WINDIFF Compare the contents of two files or sets of files
WINMSD Windows system diagnostics
WINMSDP Windows system diagnostics IIWMIC WMI Commands

XCACLS Change file permissions
XCOPY Copy files and folders















stolen from:
Simon Sheppard
S64.com

Posted: 22 May 2006, 09:17
by FrankB
blastoderm wrote: when i try to use the command net view on the command prompt it prompts me to a sytem error 5 which describes still access denied.
..... :roll: Why didn't you mention that in the first place !?
Look mate : at first hit in GoOgle with keywords :
"NET VIEW error 5" and whoOOOooosh
=> http://www.chicagotech.net/systemerrors.htm

You have weird computers over there man. At work we have 2 Macs, 3 PC all connected with a couple of routers (that had to be hubs but my `techie' colleague is a little bit distracted) and all of them have internet and shared network installed and access to my computer where all the files are.

I installed the intranet part just as described as above in less than half an hour. (the routing already being installed before i arrived at that office).

Posted: 22 May 2006, 13:18
by blastoderm
yeah i know mate that it is weird in fact i've to that page already regarding system error 5. and 25 computers are all connected in the network with a couple of hub. but anyway thanks for your help sir..

Posted: 23 May 2006, 12:24
by LaBlueGirl
[quote="blastoderm"thanks for your help sir..[/quote]

"sir" that's funny :lol:

Re-do your network setup. Go through the wizard again.

You have it configured to share an internet connection, I am assuming, but not files.

Posted: 23 May 2006, 18:37
by mystikblaze
uhh mam.. :lol:

Posted: 24 May 2006, 01:09
by LaBlueGirl
mystikblaze wrote:uhh mam.. :lol:
WHAAT :lol:

I'm not *that* old yet!!!!!!!!!

(and it is Queen of the Universe, thx :) )

Posted: 25 May 2006, 07:37
by blastoderm
i apologize for using the name "sir" or "maam" because i always speak with these words to show courtesy to others :D but anyway thanks for your help ill try that.

Posted: 25 May 2006, 13:36
by LaBlueGirl
blastoderm wrote:i apologize for using the name "sir" or "maam" because i always speak with these words to show courtesy to others :D but anyway thanks for your help ill try that.
I can dig it, I do the same thing.
Usually not on forums, though :)
That was the main reason it was funny, I promise :lol:

If you still have no luck after you try a few things, post back and I'll see what I can dig up.
If you still can't get it to work, when you post make sure to write what you did, what happened and error msgs, if applicable.

Posted: 31 May 2006, 06:25
by blastoderm
well now it works!!! i just remade the network structure and tried to reinstall the OS by default. well thanks for all of your help in this topic. :D

Posted: 01 Jun 2006, 13:45
by FrankB
blastoderm wrote:well now it works!!! i just remade the network structure and tried to reinstall the OS by default. well thanks for all of your help in this topic. :D
Cooool ! YAY !

I hope you'll stay here, so yu can share your experience with others now :)


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FrankB