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I have decided that I want to build some sort of GPU array for hash cracking, for 100% legal purposes of course :)

I have not decided how the array should be built yet as I haven't done something like this before (more than having 2-3 graphic cards in the same machine, bridged).
I have some ideas though of how I would want it to work, but I'm not sure if it could really work.

One idea is to have some sort of controller card where you would mount X number of graphic cards, and then connect them to whatever power source.
The controller card would then be connected to a computer via USB or such so that it could then be used by an application like oclHashcat on the machine.

Another idea is to just put a bunch of graphic cards into a computer and bridge then like normal.
The problem I have with this idea is that it would limit the amount of cards greatly since I would need to have a huge computer case.
I would much rather have them seperately somehow.

Is there some kind of setup like this that I could use?
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well, the USB solution would not work I think, simply because I doubt you can suck the power needed for multiple g-cards through USB, it's simply not made for that.

but there is a pretty easy solution actually: riser cards. have a look here, just as example:
http://www.plinkusa.net/riser.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that way you could extend a single PCIe port for use with multiple cards... :wink:
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ah thanks b_b, it was something like that I was after :D

Will check it out! :)
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An alternative yet useless solution is to use a USB3-PCIe enclosure, you could probably fit 2-3 gpu inside them but they require driver compatibility which will be the main issue
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reparto wrote:An alternative yet useless solution is to use a USB3-PCIe enclosure, you could probably fit 2-3 gpu inside them but they require driver compatibility which will be the main issue

hmm ok, but I guess it's as b_b said about that, that USB wont cut it :(

also, b_b, I checked out the riser solution and a friend says that it wont work, since one card needs all channels dedicated to itself.
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well, you could use an external powered USB port, like it's done with many USB hubs....of course you would need a decent power supply, best a regular PSU...would be the easiest.

about the channels....hmmm....I am not sure about this, I actually don't think so, because IRQ sharing is possible (worked already in Win 2000 days, so modern BIOSs/OSs should also definitely support it). and since the g-cards will have no actual output (graphics I mean) and only do their work internally through the GPU the port bandwidth limitation should also be no problem. of course this is all just my theory because of a lack of IRL experience... :-k
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cats wrote: hmm ok, but I guess it's as b_b said about that, that USB wont cut it :(

also, b_b, I checked out the riser solution and a friend says that it wont work, since one card needs all channels dedicated to itself.
Comment on that?
Sorry I meant thunderbolt
http://www.magma.com/expressbox-3t" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It has a separate PSU

Also, you shouldn't need all the PCIe lanes for hash cracking, i have seen a few mining rigs setup with 1x risers
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Guess I will have to do some reasearch about this.
If anyone of you can give me some proof or material that can show a build that is actually using risers with graphic cards for something like this, then that would be awesome :D

The search continues ^^
I have currently ordered a HD7970 card to start with, as my server has 2 PCI-E slots available.
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ok, I have looked around a bit, what you need to be on the safe side is "active" riser cards, those provide an own IRQ for each new slot...from what I have read most of the super-weirdo graphics benchmark results have been done that way, so it's more or less widely used.
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cats wrote:Guess I will have to do some reasearch about this.
If anyone of you can give me some proof or material that can show a build that is actually using risers with graphic cards for something like this, then that would be awesome :D

The search continues ^^
I have currently ordered a HD7970 card to start with, as my server has 2 PCI-E slots available.
Well... you only need 16 lanes if you need to saturate the 12GB/s bandwidth between the CPU and GPU (12GB/s on PCIe 3), seeing as though hash cracking is like bitcoin mining, you should be fine with 1x PCIe 3 (~1GB/s)

https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/to ... l#msg13414" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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