ok. so i was looking around and lucky me. i think i messed up the architectures that im supposed to be using for my laptop to install linux.
i have a core 2 duo t7700 im not entirely sure what architecture i have. bu ti cant figure out what architecture im supposed to be using. anyone have some help???
lol. there is a reason this is in the boobies section
linux and architectures
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lol. im trying to install a distro. ive tried debian etch. and ubuntu. neither worked. im thinking now though that its got something to do with my dvd drive. its lightscribe. so everytime it loads up the installer it talks about loading from the dvd but it doesnt work. what the heck. what should i do?
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64 bit processors are backword compatible, so 32 bit version of OS would work, but obviously the performance would be less than its potential,bad_brain wrote:well, the question is not THAT "noobish"....it seems core 2 duo desktop CPUs are 64bit and laptop ones 32bit. but the t7700 supports EM64T, so you need an x86_64 version, if not available you can use the amd64 one.
what distro do you want to install?
The distros are architecture dependent because instruction sets may very depending upon the manufacturer, regarding the bits, its just the size of address bus of of the processor, nothing to do with instruction set.
Basically the major difference you find in 64 bit processors is that you can access double the amount of memory in a single instruction. But these days we dont have so much memory usually that would make 32 bit processor look smaller.
Apart from memory, there may be some differences in the computing.. (for e.g. 64 bit ones may do a little better with instruction pipelining ) but that is negligible, and depends on how the manufacturer has implemented the stuf like instruction prefetching and all.
Anyway i m kinda outdated with processor technologies.. will get the latest intel documentation soon..
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And how do you boot and get to that point where it tells you to chose the source?visser wrote:lol. im trying to install a distro. ive tried debian etch. and ubuntu. neither worked. im thinking now though that its got something to do with my dvd drive. its lightscribe. so everytime it loads up the installer it talks about loading from the dvd but it doesnt work. what the heck. what should i do?
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right pseudo...I have to admit I am also a little confused about the architectures, especially Intel is having a weird information policy. not all core duo CPUs are 64 bit ones, many laptop ones are just 32bit but they don't explicitly mention it because those ones still have the EM64T feature....but this feature makes the core duo 32bit ones only compatible to AMD64 kernels when using Debian..
but well, the x86-kernel should work for any Intel CPU.
so when using Debian I would recommend to get the network install CD, it's just a 160mb download....the rest is loaded from the internet during the installation process, this might also evade the DVD problem with the CD/DVD-drive...
but well, the x86-kernel should work for any Intel CPU.
so when using Debian I would recommend to get the network install CD, it's just a 160mb download....the rest is loaded from the internet during the installation process, this might also evade the DVD problem with the CD/DVD-drive...
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well guys thanks for all the help. i put the net install disk in my lappy and it works. now i just need to learn how to partition the drives correctly. and grub will pick up the windows partition and allow me to boot that as well or will i just have to set that up myself???
ill google it but any extra help would be great. google doesnt show real world experience as well as you guys can
ill google it but any extra help would be great. google doesnt show real world experience as well as you guys can
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ok. i know double post. but he edit button dont work for me???? wierd??? anyways.
i tried to put debian on my laptop. didnt go so well. i go and install get all pumped thinking that its working. then i go and try to start it up. the k server desktop wouldnt work. somethign like that. but on top of that i couldnt even log in. i would type in my login name. then i couldnt type in a password. really wierd stuff.
i have no idea why. but yea. on top of that it deleted my windows partition. with out my consent. so now ive got a fresh copy of windows installed and nothing has worked yet for me as far as linux goes!!!!! i will say that i have gotten damn small linux to boot from my usb drive. lol. but thats bout it. so i guess ill be learning how to get that to allow me to wardrive. lol
i tried to put debian on my laptop. didnt go so well. i go and install get all pumped thinking that its working. then i go and try to start it up. the k server desktop wouldnt work. somethign like that. but on top of that i couldnt even log in. i would type in my login name. then i couldnt type in a password. really wierd stuff.
i have no idea why. but yea. on top of that it deleted my windows partition. with out my consent. so now ive got a fresh copy of windows installed and nothing has worked yet for me as far as linux goes!!!!! i will say that i have gotten damn small linux to boot from my usb drive. lol. but thats bout it. so i guess ill be learning how to get that to allow me to wardrive. lol
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well, Linux is laptops is not a picknick to install sometimes...simply because special drivers are already needed for the basic hardware like the screen or keyboard. and the Debian philosophy is "open source only", so many drivers are not included (because they are not open source).
a more "mainstream" distro will most likely work better, like Fedora or SuSe, Ubuntu too....
the deleted windows partition was most likely caused by a bad preparation, best is to create an unformated partition (or simply leave a blank one when setting up Windows), in Debian you can pick "use biggest empty space" and "install everything to one partition" when you are prompted during the installation, in other distros there are similar options I guess.
a more "mainstream" distro will most likely work better, like Fedora or SuSe, Ubuntu too....
the deleted windows partition was most likely caused by a bad preparation, best is to create an unformated partition (or simply leave a blank one when setting up Windows), in Debian you can pick "use biggest empty space" and "install everything to one partition" when you are prompted during the installation, in other distros there are similar options I guess.