Food for thought (What we know vs What we think we know)

[Stavros]

DISCLAIMER: I realize that posting a stormfront link would damage the credibility of this discussion, however the particular post linked to (and I'm putting all links in code tags to avoid directly linking back to suck-o) is rife with links to other articles and determined reposting here would be too much of a hassle. I've agonized over posting this link. I do not endorse the views of Stormfront or its members.

Yesterday at 2pm, CNBC acts as the only mainstream news outlet to upload a release over a new lawsuit claiming evidence of the Federal government and top US banks colluding to launder 43 trillion dollars, enough to pay off the entire US debt almost 3 times over.

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http://www.cnbc.com/id/49555671/

3 and a half hours later that same day (reported on today), the daughters of the executive of CNBC’s digital division (read: their website) are both killed by the family's nanny who was supposedly “a very nice woman”, “very religious”, and “has always been very, very stable”.

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http://www.kvue.com/news/176007461.html

The New York Times Marketwatch has the same article verbatim:

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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/major-banks-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-ta
rgets-of-spire-law-group-llps-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillio
n-to-the-united-states-treasury-2012-10-25

On top of this:
1. Norway declines to pay $50M into the ECB Bailout Plan for Greece. (says it is a waste of money).
Norway recognizes the State of Palestine to exist in a resolution.
Norway pulls out of the egregious and unlawful NATO bombing of Libya. (pulls their six jets home).
THE RESULT (from Wikipedia):

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

A LONE MAN on 22 July 2011 goes crazy in a duel attack on the Norwegian people a. Fertilizer/Fuel bomb in a car (sound familiar OKLAHOMA?) explodes outside the Prime Ministers Office, b. then a childrens camp is attacked killing 69 children of the Ruling Party in Norway. Killing the leaders of the Ruling Party is a bold statement to the whole world.

2. Federal Judge John Roll makes a preliminary ruling against the Obama Administration

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http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/judge-john-roll-target-or-victim/

‘The Obama administration advanced its position that it could bypass Congress and rule through Executive Order, and cited FDR’s Executive Order 6102 which confiscated Americans’ gold in order to ‘fix’ the economy in 1933, and built upon the Acts of October 6, 1917 and March 9, 1933.
Judge Roll’s ruling would have prevented the Obama administration
from seizing these funds and the property involved without demonstrating
clear and convincing evidence of a crime being committed. (SOUND LIKE ANY FAMILIAR EXECUTIVE ORDERS?)
THE RESULT: A gunman goes crazy and shows up at the local Safeway in Tucson and begins shooting. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is attacked. A Federal Judge John R. Rolls is killed in the attack.

3. March 2, 2010 — Japan offers to sell Iran enriched uranium.

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http://old.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=215160

THE RESULT: Japan suffers a catastrophic quake/tsunami in which a nuclear reactor is blown to smithereens on the coast.
Israelis have a live video feed into the Reactor Control Room –

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http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t786140-172/#post10472923

All twelve members of that
security team returned to Israel in the week before 3/11/11. In the
aftermath of the disaster, the Israelis publicly monitored the reactor
cores via their illegal internet data links. Yet no one took them to
task for this.”

This begs the question: What do we actually know versus what we think we know. For instance Project Manhattan at its peak employed over 130,000 and was still pretty much unknown. So I want to discuss perception vs reality in regards to conspiracy theories and in particular outright censorship vs disinformation.

I can't upload the 43 trillion case file directly to Suck-O, so here's the download link:

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http://ryushare.com/genoahrob2q5/43_trillion_Complaint.pdf

[bad_brain]

had to edit the post because the image as attachment was messing up the layout, uploaded it to out imagehost and linked the thumbnail.....NOW I can read the article..

[DNR]

Stuff like this is hard sometimes.
circumstances can be compared parallel with other events and often people point to paths that 'could have' been committed intentionally or deliberately.

Life is funny, as a crime scene student I learned a lot about events. I try to use science to come up with "Who, When, Where, and how" (there is no science for "why"). Many situations that appeared to be 'deliberate' or strange enough to be 'staged' - could be proven or rebuked in scientific examination.

People on the other hand can be hard to prove scientifically - they can say one thing and do another, and you have to catch them in the act or prove they did the other.
Smart criminals know that investigators will look at them, so criminals make effort to hide their acts. "He was such a nice guy, quiet" - perfect for a serial killer or spy - why would a smart criminal draw attention or leave trace?

Anonymous started by trying to expose these people and their acts that damage society's future. The idea was to expose bad people, so investigators could get a jump on actually performing justice. The idea was to warn bad people that they will be exposed.

now, who defines what is wrong and what is right.

We might be against dictatorship, but we fail to admit that Saddam and Assad's firm rule was needed to keep religious groups from fighting each other. We might be against invasion of privacy, but we support spying on our enemies (and 'friends' like paki)

Hackers of the old days did have one thing in common - we know what is going on with our networks. Our version of the 'daily news' is not sensational candy 'wine and games' stuff fed to society in 30 minutes with sound bites. We search keywords, we monitor forums, we check the pulse of society through its network use. It is like a hunter checking feeding spots and trails for activity.

I still think that just like large organizations can shift society - a single hacker can cause a shift in society. We interrupt society's regular programming and break the news now and then. We stop events or expose events for what they are.

When I look at other people's lives on the 'net. There is no comparison.
I still consider people like us to be elite, that we are the ring that encompasses the good and bad without being influenced by it. I don't feel bad about my life, I don't wish to be something that I am not. We might be few, but I am proud of our ethics and thinking power.

DNR