Linux kernel institutes Code of Conduct - dark days ahead

[Stavros]

Techtonic shifts are afoot in the world of Linux kernel development. Linux kernel development th rows out "Code of Conflict" and institutes Code of Conduct by CoralinAda Ehmke. If you ar not are of who this person is "she" is responsible for the CoC that caused a major developer to leave FreeBSD earlier this year foreshadowing things to come.

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If anyone wants to know how bad it is, this is the person behind this "Code of Conduct": https://twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1029161113848557569

https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/the-dehumanizing-myth-of-the-meritocracy

https://postmeritocracy.org/

Who is now celebrating this "win" today: https://twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1041441155874009093

https://twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1041465346656530432

https://twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1041480382892453893

For a little backstory FreeBSD implemented this change in February and caused a big stink. Another example is Opal.

I don't think I can do this justice as im typing this out on my phone (which leads me to an off topic subject of a mobile friendly site/app if suck-o gets another update). Regarfless the best place to read about it is on Reddits /r/linux and /r/programming subreddits.

[Stavros]

Also

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https://status451.com/2017/05/18/the-backchannel-is-the-message

[Stavros]

Deconstructing Coraline Ada Ehmke’s “Contributor Covenant”, And Why It’s Foolish

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https://medium.com/@infiltrator7n/deconstructing-coraline-ada-ehmke-s-contributor-covenant-and-why-it-s-foolish-801e1564afe4

Sorry for so many posts but on mobile the edit button is cut off.

[ayu]

Deconstructing Coraline Ada Ehmke’s “Contributor Covenant”, And Why It’s Foolish

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https://medium.com/@infiltrator7n/deconstructing-coraline-ada-ehmke-s-contributor-covenant-and-why-it-s-foolish-801e1564afe4

Sorry for so many posts but on mobile the edit button is cut off.

Haven't read everything, but read this one to the end.
Although I do think her CoC is pretty exaggerated, I also agree with that the Linux community can sometimes be quite toxic, and that the way Linus comments on "bad code" can be pretty devastating for people.

Also, the person writing seems very "butt hurt" about the whole thing.
Some form of CoC isn't bad, but maybe it just needs some work, so imho giving her advice on it instead, would be more constructive : /

[Stavros]

Well of course "she" is butthurt. She's an ideologue. Anyway I didn't even have to wait a week for them to start targeting kernel developers.

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https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1042769399596437504

Anyway this isn't the first time an alleged attempt has been made. According to Eric S Raymond in 2015 one was made on Linus.

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http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907

I'm not sure what to make of this

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https://twitter.com/carloslage/status/1042829596675190785/photo/1

Regardless of what you think I see too many similarities between FreeBSD.

[ayu]

Well of course "she" is butthurt. She's an ideologue. Anyway I didn't even have to wait a week for them to start targeting kernel developers.

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https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1042769399596437504

Anyway this isn't the first time an alleged attempt has been made. According to Eric S Raymond in 2015 one was made on Linus.

Yeah, well it sucks when they start witch-hunting.
So one can simply hope that it will all balance out in the end.
Although it wouldn't be all too bad to make some people change their views on certain things (like rape, for example).
Not saying that I agree with the content in the link above though.
Why do you keep referring to her as "she" btw? : S

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http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907

I'm not sure what to make of this

That sounds awfully worrying, but at the same time, it's a text on the Internet so I refuse to just swallow it.
But I wouldn't be surprised if it does happen.

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https://twitter.com/carloslage/status/1042829596675190785/photo/1

Regardless of what you think I see too many similarities between FreeBSD.

Absolutely agree on the with hunt part.
Can only really hope that the one who have the actual power wont give in fully in the end and succumb to the "hunters" demands ; /

[Stavros]

I don't entertain the delusions of the mentally ill. Or will only in the most backhanded way. I identify as a billionaire yet it doesn't make it so.

If you actually read Ted Ts'o you will realize that he is not a rape apologist. Ts'o questions the 1 in 4 rape statistic. GeekFeminism wiki is not at all a credible source. This is the same types of people who tried to create the Atheism+ movement (if you remember that attempt about 5 years ago). I'm sure there's some other movement attempts.

Who knows? I think it'd be funny if Linus gets the boot and he just forks the kernel and watch as the Linux kernel turns into a dumpster fire.

Edit: This just hit me as ironic. Criticism of the new CoC constitutes "political attack" and is therefore subject to removal.

[ayu]

I don't entertain the delusions of the mentally ill. Or will only in the most backhanded way. I identify as a billionaire yet it doesn't make it so.

So you are a medical expert now?
I find it extremely small minded to attack someone personally, just because you don't agree with her ways and/or opinion on a matter.

I haven't read in much into the whole circus around this issue, and frankly I've lost interest now.
I'm already very tired of people using the "He/She is mentally ill" argument when arguing against the opinions of trans people.

[Stavros]

It does not take a medical expert to realize the basic biological facts that trans women will never ovulate, never give birth and never experience menopause.It doesn't take a medical expert to realize a trans man will never have testes and sperm. Though this doesn't surprise me of your view as you are from sweden. Regardless we are way off base.

[ayu]

It does not take a medical expert to realize the basic biological facts that trans women will never ovulate, never give birth and never experience menopause.It doesn't take a medical expert to realize a trans man will never have testes and sperm. Though this doesn't surprise me of your view as you are from sweden. Regardless we are way off base.

No trans man or woman needs to be taught biology.
They are well aware of the facts of how the body works, and I really don't understand why other people (such as yourself), bully them for trying to be happy and stable individuals.
The only reason they need long term help from a psychiatrist, is because they are constantly harassed by people who feel that they must have an opinion about other people's lives.

Also, yes, in Sweden we try to treat people equally and with respect (although we don't always succeed).
We find that bullying people creates heavy load on the health care system, as it creates more sad and depressed individuals; and have discovered that being decent human beings will serve everyone better.

Anyway, sorry for going off topic even more.
I'll leave this topic now, as this is a very loaded question for me.

[ph0bYx]

The most disturbing thing in this whole drama is the post-meritocracy movement. I never believed such a thing would ever exist. I mean:

We believe that interpersonal skills are at least as important as technical skills.

I hope to Odin that something like this never touches an open source project, at least not one with such an impact as the Linux kernel.

RE: gender topic: I understand both of your positions, and BELIEVE me I have a LOT to say about this topic, but let's keep this topic on the actual topic and not go off topic.
Woah... too much topics... getting dizzy...