Racists are scums!
Why are you getting so upset? This is a discussion. We are adults talking about something. I am also not trying to convert you. I really don't appreciate the name calling and hostility. I'm pushing it? What does that mean exactly?
Do I know every person in the world? No. Obviously not. But yes, you can say certain things that will encompass the entire world. For instance, we all love something, we all think, breath air, drink water, and hate. Yes, every man, woman and child on this planet hates something. Rationally or not that hate is still there. (good come back by the way; do I know everyone in the world). So I can speak for them because I know for a certainty that everyone hates something. GreenPeace hates polluters, the police hates criminals, and you hate racists (me).
You say all I talk about in this forum is race. Well, obviously. The topic is "racists are scum". I didn't start this topic but don't mind talking about race. If i were to go into a topic about cartoon characters I would be expected to talk about cartoon characters not computers. Make sense?
Yes, i do think people on this website care about this topic. I've seen it in different sections under different things from long before I got here.
What kind of evidence would you like me to submit. Why don't we take the Olympics from, I forget the exact one, but it was in the 70's. Three black athletes won track. When they were presented their medals they put up the "Raised Fist" to signify their black pride. The "Raised Fist" was commonly associated with the Black Panthers. Which it turns out they were member of. They lost their medals because of this. Is that right? For them to lose to the medals they won because they showed pride in who they are? NO. It's not. Now would they be classified on the same level of scum as myself?
What about Obama? As soon as he was elected president he immediately raised several black individual to key position within the government. He over looked other individuals because of race. Would he be classified as the same level of scum as myself?
Shall I go on?
Do I know every person in the world? No. Obviously not. But yes, you can say certain things that will encompass the entire world. For instance, we all love something, we all think, breath air, drink water, and hate. Yes, every man, woman and child on this planet hates something. Rationally or not that hate is still there. (good come back by the way; do I know everyone in the world). So I can speak for them because I know for a certainty that everyone hates something. GreenPeace hates polluters, the police hates criminals, and you hate racists (me).
You say all I talk about in this forum is race. Well, obviously. The topic is "racists are scum". I didn't start this topic but don't mind talking about race. If i were to go into a topic about cartoon characters I would be expected to talk about cartoon characters not computers. Make sense?
Yes, i do think people on this website care about this topic. I've seen it in different sections under different things from long before I got here.
What kind of evidence would you like me to submit. Why don't we take the Olympics from, I forget the exact one, but it was in the 70's. Three black athletes won track. When they were presented their medals they put up the "Raised Fist" to signify their black pride. The "Raised Fist" was commonly associated with the Black Panthers. Which it turns out they were member of. They lost their medals because of this. Is that right? For them to lose to the medals they won because they showed pride in who they are? NO. It's not. Now would they be classified on the same level of scum as myself?
What about Obama? As soon as he was elected president he immediately raised several black individual to key position within the government. He over looked other individuals because of race. Would he be classified as the same level of scum as myself?
Shall I go on?
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One word comes to mind...ignorance. In fact I kind of lost my breath when I read that. Should I even continue debating with you? I wonder what would be the point because apparently you do not posses the intellectual ability to debate with me. I mean where in the world did you come to the conclusion that I hate racists because I hate people who hate. OMG,...that is so funny. Where did you get that from. You just pull it out of the air? Maybe that is some kind of -ism and I do not know what that is because I have never debated with such...low life.racist wrote:You say racists are scum but what you really mean is people who hate are scum (I hate you for this reason). That's basically what this comes down to: Hate. You don't like the fact that I dislike/hate others and in turn you hate me for this. This is some form of -ism in itself. I don't know the name one would call you when you hate those who hate.
Why would I hate people who hate? I hate plenty of people but my prejudice is not based on color, creed or nationality. For instance I hate many people in the entertainment industry because I believe that they are fakes who do not deserve to be famous and rich. For instance I have Jessica Simpson, Ashlee Simpson, Jack Black, Beyonce, and countless others.
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I would like to remind all of you that even if this is the debate section, let us not make it get out of hand.
You are to debate on why you are right, and try to convince the other parties. Not push your believes on anyone or throw dirt.
This topic will be locked for an hour, so that everyone may cool down.
EDIT: Topic re-opened
You are to debate on why you are right, and try to convince the other parties. Not push your believes on anyone or throw dirt.
This topic will be locked for an hour, so that everyone may cool down.
EDIT: Topic re-opened
"The best place to hide a tree, is in a forest"
A debate asked for
Well I'll hit on debate, but only insofar as it is presented by me, not that everyone else is on their own, but I don't have the time or inclination to speak on everyones behalf... but let's keep this civil shall we? Let's start with some basics and see where that leads us:racist wrote:I will first start with lilrofl. In your reply you didn't debate the issue at all you simply screamed how ignorant it all is or, more specifically, i am. I will ask you to learn how to debate and how to get a point across without saying the other person is "ignorant". You used the word four times, by the way.
Racism (noun) a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
Prejudice (noun) an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
Now that we are all familiar with the subject matter, let's get started. I will argue two points, one Biblical and one scientific, take your pick...
BIBLICAL
A biblical case against racism, this will be interesting as I am not a Christian, but God keeps coming up in this thread so it would be illogical to forgo his take on things... even if that does somehow make me a hypocrite lol.
Christ is the King of kings and the Lamb of God, whose shed blood has purchased His people "from every tribe, tongue, and people, and nation" (Rev. 5:9).
Christ's gospel will lead "all the nations...and many peoples" to stream to His kingdom (Is. 2:3), and "all the families of the nations will worship before" Christ "for the kingdom is the Lord's, and He rules over the nations" (Ps. 22:27,28).
The gospel makes race insignificant. There is no religiously important category for race in the Biblical scheme. The only two groups who figure into the history of redemption are covenant-keepers and covenant-breakers, believers and unbelievers. Since Christ, as Lord of His church, has given us such great promises as those above, we should expect that the ethical imperatives of scripture would prohibit racist practices and attitudes. A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.
The first Biblical argument against racism is found in the Decalogue. The sixth commandment forbids us to take the life of another. Christ argues that the implications of this commandment are far deeper than simple murder. The Lord teaches us that the commandment also condemns vile mockery and unexpressed hateful heart attitudes (Matt. 5: 21, 22). He rescues this law from those who had clouded it with their human traditions.
The Westminster Larger Catechism expounds the sixth commandment as forbidding, among other things, "sinful anger, hatred, envy, desire of revenge...provoking words, oppression...striking, wounding, and whatsoever else tends to the destruction of the life of any" (Q. 136). If we are forbidden to have or act on hateful attitudes toward anyone, then we are forbidden from doing such things to an individual of another race.
Moreover, the Larger Catechism explains that the sixth commandment obligates us to preserve the life of others "by charitable thoughts, love, compassion, meekness, gentleness, kindness; peaceable, mild and courteous speeches and behavior; forbearance, readiness to be reconciled, patient bearing and forgiving of injuries, and requiting good for evil; comforting and succoring the distressed, and protecting and defending the innocent" (Q. 135). Racist attitudes stand in stark contrast to these prescriptions. The law of God goes to the heart of the issue. To be a racist is to be a killer.
SCIENTIFIC
For the scientific argument I will largely reference the, "Observations and recommendations regarding race and genetics by the National Human Genome Center of Howard University" not because I've read it, but because it is easy to reference
Here I will bold my summery of the arguments in case you don't want to read anything but my actual wording.
1. When the human species is viewed as a whole, underlying genetic variation and expressed physical traits exhibit gradients of differentiation, not discrete units. Therefore, modern extant humans do not fracture into races (subspecies) based on the modern phylogenetic criteria of molecular systematics.
The common ground of racism, skin color, only pertains to a minute portion of the human genome (that's what we are made of) this can be further filtered down into, "WE" [humans] are more alike then not, no matter what we look like on the outside.
2. The biological “boundaries” between any human divisions (groups, populations, nationalities) are circumstantial and largely dependent on what traits are chosen for emphasis.
We are the sum of our parents DNA, and our race is determined by what our parents found a desirable trait, which may or may not have been focused through a lens of bigotry
3. The demographic units of human societies (and of the U.S. census) are the products of social or political rules, not the forces of biological evolution. The names and characteristics of demographic groups can change and have changed over time.
What is black, I mean what shade exactly.. that's a product of social reform and census grouping, and not an exact science... can you imagine the look on Morgan Freemans face when he was told that he was a high percentage white... he handled it well... but he is very articulate.
4. Group differences in health parameters are not encoded in the human genome as part of an evolutionary pattern of divergence. Thus, differences in health or disease cannot be treated as causally related to ethnoancestral groups.
Disease kills regardless of skin color.
5. Genotype-environment interactions are more important in explaining group differences in health than genotype, environment, or a factor called “race”.
People have adapted to the environments that they live in over time, and those adaptations are far more diverse then mere skin color.
6. The non-existence of human races (subspecies) does not mean the non-existence of racism. Racism is the structured systematic oppression against individuals and groups defined based on physical traits that reflect an extremely limited fraction of the human genome. Racism must be addressed.
Racism is ignorant
7. Individuals cannot be treated as representative for all those who physically resemble them, or have some of the same ethnohistorical ancestry. Ancestries of individuals and groups should be ascertained in order to evaluate differential expression of genetic effects.
Bad people come in all colors, but someday it might be a (insert the race you hate) saving your life or the life of someone you love.
Although this argument doesn't necessarily preclude the idea of genetic superiority/inferiority among populations, it tends to argue against this basis being decided by the pre-scientific notion of 'race'. So racists are basically asserting a pre-scientific basis for the superiority/inferiority of groups.
Racism is idiocy.
Now that's just my opinion mind you, your free to shove it in whatever hole you would like... so much for civility.
As a final note, I would like to apologize if somehow in this rant I have over stepped my bounds as a member, in the form of inflammatory speech... but it was a debate that was asked for, and in debate you must be thorough.
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Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences.
Racism just indicates that you have a preference. Extreme racism is a different topic. which in this case.
Racism just indicates that you have a preference. Extreme racism is a different topic. which in this case.
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damn lilrofl - if you can hack like you can write, you are going to be elite!
Look, I pointed out that this was a hot topic - and it can go on all fuckin day.
The key learning point in this argument is not who wins, but do we accept that others will not agree on every point in our beliefs. Believe it or not, some staff on here have strong disagreements too - but we move on for the greater good. I respect that everyone that posted in this thread had the BALLS to stand for what THEY believe.
The next level of respect is can you accept other people that are different from you?
BTW, no one impresses me or offends me in this thread - I accept what your beliefs are, and it does not change how I see you. The last time we had a thread like this was "Niggers" - someone posted the same question in a different way - this will not be the last discussion on race, religion, sex, or location. This is routine shit, but important - so we can get to know each other.
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Look, I pointed out that this was a hot topic - and it can go on all fuckin day.
The key learning point in this argument is not who wins, but do we accept that others will not agree on every point in our beliefs. Believe it or not, some staff on here have strong disagreements too - but we move on for the greater good. I respect that everyone that posted in this thread had the BALLS to stand for what THEY believe.
The next level of respect is can you accept other people that are different from you?
BTW, no one impresses me or offends me in this thread - I accept what your beliefs are, and it does not change how I see you. The last time we had a thread like this was "Niggers" - someone posted the same question in a different way - this will not be the last discussion on race, religion, sex, or location. This is routine shit, but important - so we can get to know each other.
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He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning. He reveals deep and hidden things; he knows what lies in Darkness, and Light dwells with him.
no offense taken
DrV,
Thanks for thinking about the forum - thats what you meant by "sorry if I offended" - you were thinking about the big picture - to not let some stupid discussion about race blow up in to a forum wide argument.
You can see that some that posted will have trouble moving on - they don't see the big picture.
Kudos for standing up for your beliefs - thats what really counts.
DNR
Thanks for thinking about the forum - thats what you meant by "sorry if I offended" - you were thinking about the big picture - to not let some stupid discussion about race blow up in to a forum wide argument.
You can see that some that posted will have trouble moving on - they don't see the big picture.
Kudos for standing up for your beliefs - thats what really counts.
DNR
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I started this thread. The topic is not about race. You made it because apparently that is the only thing that you know how to talk about.racist wrote:You say all I talk about in this forum is race. Well, obviously. The topic is "racists are scum". I didn't start this topic but don't mind talking about race. If i were to go into a topic about cartoon characters I would be expected to talk about cartoon characters not computers. Make sense?
It is possible to talk about racial hatred with out ever mentioning race. I think that I am going to have a try at it and see if it works. Yeah, here we go. I believe that there is a lot of racial hatred in the world today. This is very unfortunate I believe because racism is flawed and it should have no bearing in any society. I say so because the victims of racial hatred are usually women and children. There is a local case where a member of some neo-nazi group killed two women by throwing a grenade into a house. These people are not only murderess but cowards. They are afraid to pick on some one there own size and they kill innocent people.
You see in the above text I did not use the word race even once. Because it is possible to talk about racist, racial hatred, and so on with out mentioning race. In fact I would like to get away from that all together. Just the mere mention of race means that this thread is going off topic.
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congratulations!!!
May i just say i have observed the subject over the last few days and although i have been working and not had the time to reply, this is the first time i have ever read on the subject and everyone has kept virtually on topic and presented each case in a very well respected manor. Yes we have had a similar topic here before which became a hard job for the staff just monitoring it and my initial statement was made because the last thing i wanted to see was another repeat episode of what we can see time and time again.
This is one of the most heated subjects anyone can reply to and here you have sat and talked, argued and debated in a professional manor and all without basically shouting and swearing. I hope this is a lesson you have all learned and learned well. If you are in say an appeal for example you must learn to debate in a reasonable tone and not lose your head. The first instance you lose your head, you lose control of yourself and the situation and its game over.
This has become another war of words and if we let it it will become just the same as another topic here on suck-o somewhere....'define the word hacker' or to similar effect. We can go on and on giving definitions and meanings all day long but if we cant do it here then how are we supposed to learn in RL. In many countries this is still a major problem...Ok, in all countries this is a major problem still but if you look back over the last 50 years we have all come a long way in such a short time after something which has probably been bred into us all if we want to talk about genes, DNA etc, with the way the world has been since time began. If we can not hate each other here for our beliefs and can put the barriers down even just for that short time while here, then just maybe, just maybe we can all learn from each other. If we want to show our hatred back we have learned nothing and cannot teach anything to others. It is something that is one sided here, these barriers need to come down on all sides.
I would also just like to thank cats in the way he closed the topic till everyone composed themselves and getting it back on track in the correct manor!
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I belive I have some answers to give.
It is hard to belive he will have something that big against whites isn't it ? Well you are the expert on this. Please do educate me.
P.S. I belive you have distinct problem with reading. This topic says racists are scum. Now as much as I know lyecdevf he meant the people who discriminate in the basis of race. And take degenerative actions against every race but his own. No one actually called you that. Yet you made this your war. NO ONE CALLED YOU SCUM.
Well my friend(?) just like u don't like people hating racists or hating people who hate(I am yet to understand that whole thing. everytime I read it seems like an infinite loop.Maybe I ought to stop reading C.) I do not like it when people take a swing at my own views or way of life without any valid argument or point.racist wrote:Why are you getting so upset? This is a discussion. We are adults talking about something. I am also not trying to convert you. I really don't appreciate the name calling and hostility. I'm pushing it? What does that mean exactly?
I don't hate racists. Frankly they are so insignificant that I don't even consider them. U should read my first post. I never mouthed one word against racism. I simple presented my point of view towards race, community etc etc.racist wrote:Do I know every person in the world? No. Obviously not. But yes, you can say certain things that will encompass the entire world. For instance, we all love something, we all think, breath air, drink water, and hate. Yes, every man, woman and child on this planet hates something. Rationally or not that hate is still there. (good come back by the way; do I know everyone in the world). So I can speak for them because I know for a certainty that everyone hates something. GreenPeace hates polluters, the police hates criminals, and you hate racists (me).
I'm sorry I should have been more clear. I belive you have posted before in this website is that right ? Aha.. would mind reading them and count, yes count how many subjects you talked about except race. I will tell you. 2. One was about ip address and another was about u jail time.racist wrote:You say all I talk about in this forum is race. Well, obviously. The topic is "racists are scum". I didn't start this topic but don't mind talking about race. If i were to go into a topic about cartoon characters I would be expected to talk about cartoon characters not computers. Make sense?
By all means please do. And please do point out how many WORTHY individuals were over looked cause they were white. By the way did you know that actually Obama's dad was black, but his mom is white and his dad left long before he was born and he was practically brought up by his mom and grandparents. No ?racist wrote:What kind of evidence would you like me to submit. Why don't we take the Olympics from, I forget the exact one, but it was in the 70's. Three black athletes won track. When they were presented their medals they put up the "Raised Fist" to signify their black pride. The "Raised Fist" was commonly associated with the Black Panthers. Which it turns out they were member of. They lost their medals because of this. Is that right? For them to lose to the medals they won because they showed pride in who they are? NO. It's not. Now would they be classified on the same level of scum as myself?
What about Obama? As soon as he was elected president he immediately raised several black individual to key position within the government. He over looked other individuals because of race. Would he be classified as the same level of scum as myself?
Shall I go on?
It is hard to belive he will have something that big against whites isn't it ? Well you are the expert on this. Please do educate me.
P.S. I belive you have distinct problem with reading. This topic says racists are scum. Now as much as I know lyecdevf he meant the people who discriminate in the basis of race. And take degenerative actions against every race but his own. No one actually called you that. Yet you made this your war. NO ONE CALLED YOU SCUM.
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This is a really good point. I my self in the dark about people who hate people who hate. He was justifying his hatred on the basis the every one hates some thing. I mean sure we all hate some thing or some one but there is a big difference between some one who hates a politician and some one who trows a grenade into a house killing two women because he believes that the people who he was targeting do not belong there. No one can justify an act of hatred where people get killed by pointing out some other form of hatred that is in no way so destructive. That is ignorance and that is why as DrVirus pointed out this discussion seems like an infinite loop. Because some one here is too ignorant to see other peoples views.DrVirus wrote:Well my friend(?) just like u don't like people hating racists or hating people who hate(I am yet to understand that whole thing. everytime I read it seems like an infinite loop.Maybe I ought to stop reading C.) I do not like it when people take a swing at my own views or way of life without any valid argument or point.
My views exactly. The only reason I made this thread is because I was offended at the so obvious display of racial hatred by a person on this forum. I ignore racist as if they do not exist but when some one comes into that little world of mine in this case the forums where I like hang out than I have to react. I can not just stay silent. I have to speak up and I have to say I feel a whole lot better now.DrVirus wrote:I don't hate racists. Frankly they are so insignificant that I don't even consider them. U should read my first post. I never mouthed one word against racism. I simple presented my point of view towards race, community etc etc.
DrVirus you write so well I could learn so much from you. I am so glad you posted this.DrVirus wrote:P.S. I belive you have distinct problem with reading. This topic says racists are scum. Now as much as I know lyecdevf he meant the people who discriminate in the basis of race. And take degenerative actions against every race but his own. No one actually called you that. Yet you made this your war. NO ONE CALLED YOU SCUM.
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This is not a war as this is where it ends. People are too quick to judge and have one track minds. We can all argue and rant all day long but will you get anywhere the way it is going....i doubt it.
Lets take a look at the big picture....It was me and DNR who first reacted to the name this user presented and am glad it was the admins who took this step. First of all we was quick to judge and most people would have upped and left. Even now with the rest of the forum on the offensive he is still here and attempting to communicate.
You ask about his post count and content, let me just clarify that from reading another post, he has been out less than a month. Give the guy a break. Also others of you have not had the pleasure of doing time where race DOES matter. Nearly 10 years is a long time and believe me just trying to get back into society and realizing the world has changed is one of the hardest things any one can do. Yes some of this should be in the prison thread but i doubt some of you will even read it down to having a disagreement with this member so i will continue here.
In most prisons all over the world you will find that there is always a majority. America is one of the only places you will go to prison and be confronted with many races. In prison you have to belong! If you dont belong then you die anyway as its seen as you are now the enemy. Race hate is something we all agree on that its a breed. After all this time inside and hearing race from all angles, and its all you hear day after day, you start to believe. You actually convince yourself that this is right.....for them 9 1/2 years inside it WAS right. This is not one sided but all sided from all races. Its a fact that is not comprehensible to most as you have never had this experience.
Here where i live we have had race riots quite a few times. We are what i perceive as a experiment. We have a large area which is populated by Asians and what they have tried to do is make us all interact and live amongst each other. Let me tell you now....It doesn't work. You people here now with your own personal views i might give a chance for a few days till it all goes sour because one person does not agree on the others views which is exactly what is happening here. Its not the minority thats the problem. Its easy to pick out someone from maybe 30 people but try doing the same with 90,000 people. What do you do? Send all the racists what ever creed you are from to one part of the world and let us all live in peace....if only this was possible.
I bet each and everyone of us has a friend or knows someone who has there own personal opinions whether you believe them or not but do you judge them, i doubt it. How many of us have racist parents or grandparents that will be stuck in there ways for the rest of there lives? Every country is in th same predicament yet through some small community like suck-o we can try to forget the woes of everyday life and make a stand and try to make it work. Yes it does take us all to join in and be a community and yes it works but lets not forget this is online.
I have been happy to let this thread carry on as its good to let personal views come out and this is the only way we can learn from each other.
Its about time we all stop being judgmental too and for once give this guy a break, its down to you as individuals to help each other understand. You might all want to hate this guy but all he has done is answer your questions as he only knows how and he has done it in such a manor and has also stayed here, does want to change his life, life style and attitude and also like the way the site operates.
You try going to other hacking sites and tell me they aren't racist? At least here he see's potential and likes what he has read so isn't this a start? Where does it all end? As i said in my earlier post if we cant learn from each other then what chance is there for the rest of the world. Just by ignoring this post and chatting about other things will help this topic die and in time maybe you can all judge him for the person he really is. Time is a great healer and its up to each and everyone of us to show each other we are different. This can be done the way suck-o has always done it, by learning new things and helping each other.
You can all keep debating for me as its kept in a reasonable manor or you can all choose to see what time brings. Like i said sometimes you need to look at why and everybody, thats everybody, has the right to try and change there lives. If we all plead ignorance to this fact then how will anyone ever get over there own downfalls.
One more time..... 'Its a big picture'
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racist, send me a pm and il help with your change of id, yeah keep the picture as you said thats you and that will never change.
Thanks for keeping this topic on a respectable level to all those involved
Lets take a look at the big picture....It was me and DNR who first reacted to the name this user presented and am glad it was the admins who took this step. First of all we was quick to judge and most people would have upped and left. Even now with the rest of the forum on the offensive he is still here and attempting to communicate.
You ask about his post count and content, let me just clarify that from reading another post, he has been out less than a month. Give the guy a break. Also others of you have not had the pleasure of doing time where race DOES matter. Nearly 10 years is a long time and believe me just trying to get back into society and realizing the world has changed is one of the hardest things any one can do. Yes some of this should be in the prison thread but i doubt some of you will even read it down to having a disagreement with this member so i will continue here.
In most prisons all over the world you will find that there is always a majority. America is one of the only places you will go to prison and be confronted with many races. In prison you have to belong! If you dont belong then you die anyway as its seen as you are now the enemy. Race hate is something we all agree on that its a breed. After all this time inside and hearing race from all angles, and its all you hear day after day, you start to believe. You actually convince yourself that this is right.....for them 9 1/2 years inside it WAS right. This is not one sided but all sided from all races. Its a fact that is not comprehensible to most as you have never had this experience.
Here where i live we have had race riots quite a few times. We are what i perceive as a experiment. We have a large area which is populated by Asians and what they have tried to do is make us all interact and live amongst each other. Let me tell you now....It doesn't work. You people here now with your own personal views i might give a chance for a few days till it all goes sour because one person does not agree on the others views which is exactly what is happening here. Its not the minority thats the problem. Its easy to pick out someone from maybe 30 people but try doing the same with 90,000 people. What do you do? Send all the racists what ever creed you are from to one part of the world and let us all live in peace....if only this was possible.
I bet each and everyone of us has a friend or knows someone who has there own personal opinions whether you believe them or not but do you judge them, i doubt it. How many of us have racist parents or grandparents that will be stuck in there ways for the rest of there lives? Every country is in th same predicament yet through some small community like suck-o we can try to forget the woes of everyday life and make a stand and try to make it work. Yes it does take us all to join in and be a community and yes it works but lets not forget this is online.
I have been happy to let this thread carry on as its good to let personal views come out and this is the only way we can learn from each other.
Its about time we all stop being judgmental too and for once give this guy a break, its down to you as individuals to help each other understand. You might all want to hate this guy but all he has done is answer your questions as he only knows how and he has done it in such a manor and has also stayed here, does want to change his life, life style and attitude and also like the way the site operates.
You try going to other hacking sites and tell me they aren't racist? At least here he see's potential and likes what he has read so isn't this a start? Where does it all end? As i said in my earlier post if we cant learn from each other then what chance is there for the rest of the world. Just by ignoring this post and chatting about other things will help this topic die and in time maybe you can all judge him for the person he really is. Time is a great healer and its up to each and everyone of us to show each other we are different. This can be done the way suck-o has always done it, by learning new things and helping each other.
You can all keep debating for me as its kept in a reasonable manor or you can all choose to see what time brings. Like i said sometimes you need to look at why and everybody, thats everybody, has the right to try and change there lives. If we all plead ignorance to this fact then how will anyone ever get over there own downfalls.
One more time..... 'Its a big picture'
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racist, send me a pm and il help with your change of id, yeah keep the picture as you said thats you and that will never change.
Thanks for keeping this topic on a respectable level to all those involved
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phew! this is a serious post i must say!
racism...not good! one love people! one love! just like bob marley said in his song one love.
we should not look at color but personality and how people act and how they judge.
color, its like a pistachio, we all hate the pistachio's shell but love what's inside it. people are also like pistachios. we all might not like some physical feature a race might possess, but if we get to know them, we all might like them.
i am not self righteous to say that i am not a racist because sometimes i start hating 1 man/woman from a race (say kim jong il of n.korea) and start thinking of sending an ICBM to their nation to annihilate their race, but this is not right, tho you hate hate them they still are people who have the right to live. the problem with us people is we hate 1 and we start hating all.
racism is hate and hate is not good, hate does not accomplish anything.
we should just all give each other a hug and stop hating.
i don't if i am making any sense here...coz i am not good at expressing social thoughts thru words. it does not matter how long this thread might go, if we people don't practice what we preach.
o hell! genuses are misunderstood.
phew! this is a serious post i must say!
racism...not good! one love people! one love! just like bob marley said in his song one love.
we should not look at color but personality and how people act and how they judge.
color, its like a pistachio, we all hate the pistachio's shell but love what's inside it. people are also like pistachios. we all might not like some physical feature a race might possess, but if we get to know them, we all might like them.
i am not self righteous to say that i am not a racist because sometimes i start hating 1 man/woman from a race (say kim jong il of n.korea) and start thinking of sending an ICBM to their nation to annihilate their race, but this is not right, tho you hate hate them they still are people who have the right to live. the problem with us people is we hate 1 and we start hating all.
racism is hate and hate is not good, hate does not accomplish anything.
we should just all give each other a hug and stop hating.
i don't if i am making any sense here...coz i am not good at expressing social thoughts thru words. it does not matter how long this thread might go, if we people don't practice what we preach.
o hell! genuses are misunderstood.